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		<title>By: Claire</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you imagine paying £25 a day? How extortionate but then again, I suppose it would need to be a large figure to get everyone commuting via public transport or more &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fiat.co.uk/500twinair/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Eco friendly cars&lt;/a&gt;. At least with a £25 a day saving people will be able to afford the parking!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you imagine paying £25 a day? How extortionate but then again, I suppose it would need to be a large figure to get everyone commuting via public transport or more <a href="http://www.fiat.co.uk/500twinair/" rel="nofollow">Eco friendly cars</a>. At least with a £25 a day saving people will be able to afford the parking!</p>
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		<title>By: Leonard Danella</title>
		<link>http://autotraderblog.co.uk/2008/02/12/293/comment-page-3/#comment-6893</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awesome blog...gave up on most years back, stick with eAdvertisingCompany.com.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome blog&#8230;gave up on most years back, stick with eAdvertisingCompany.com.</p>
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		<title>By: Ayana Bott</title>
		<link>http://autotraderblog.co.uk/2008/02/12/293/comment-page-3/#comment-6264</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 07:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey just wondering how you went aout setting up your blog etc. I&#039;m pretty new to the whole internet thing, Was the platform easy to install]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey just wondering how you went aout setting up your blog etc. I&#8217;m pretty new to the whole internet thing, Was the platform easy to install</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://autotraderblog.co.uk/2008/02/12/293/comment-page-1/#comment-4990</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well said mark]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said mark</p>
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		<title>By: Gav</title>
		<link>http://autotraderblog.co.uk/2008/02/12/293/comment-page-3/#comment-1715</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well done Porsche! Finally someone with the balls to stand up to the government on what is just another Tax, dressed up as saving the planet.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done Porsche! Finally someone with the balls to stand up to the government on what is just another Tax, dressed up as saving the planet&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: peter humes</title>
		<link>http://autotraderblog.co.uk/2008/02/12/293/comment-page-3/#comment-1562</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[if they decide to charge congestion charges then i think will buy the most gas guzzling car i can find. the cost is the same so why not. if road tax is going to be over £400 for a Mondeo 1.8, then I think driving a 6.0litre would be a better choice as the price is similar. im going to stop recycling now as well, i just dont care anymore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if they decide to charge congestion charges then i think will buy the most gas guzzling car i can find. the cost is the same so why not. if road tax is going to be over £400 for a Mondeo 1.8, then I think driving a 6.0litre would be a better choice as the price is similar. im going to stop recycling now as well, i just dont care anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: ali</title>
		<link>http://autotraderblog.co.uk/2008/02/12/293/comment-page-2/#comment-1560</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its just another way to make money, the way to deal with congestion is, not to start charging people, but to improve the roads, reduce unnecessary traffic lights, have fly overs for a consistant flow of traffic. Rather than introducing another piggy bank scheme, try and use the out of the box approach to resolve such issues. Learn from other countries who have a network of flyovers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its just another way to make money, the way to deal with congestion is, not to start charging people, but to improve the roads, reduce unnecessary traffic lights, have fly overs for a consistant flow of traffic. Rather than introducing another piggy bank scheme, try and use the out of the box approach to resolve such issues. Learn from other countries who have a network of flyovers.</p>
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		<title>By: dave oxfordshire</title>
		<link>http://autotraderblog.co.uk/2008/02/12/293/comment-page-2/#comment-1091</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dave oxfordshire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Livingstone how about we charge all londoners
£ 25 each time they come out of london, ??????]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Livingstone how about we charge all londoners<br />
£ 25 each time they come out of london, ??????</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://autotraderblog.co.uk/2008/02/12/293/comment-page-2/#comment-984</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Livingstone is just making it up as he goes along and Brown and Darling are even worse once again the good old motorist is being wrung out like a damp cloth to get the last few  drips, because of Labours bungling incompetence we are now all left to pick up the bill for their reckless spending on hairbrained schemes, Who sold off our gold reserves when the price was rock bottom? good old Gordon Brown Gold is now $1000 an ounce need i say more Fiscal genius? my foot]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Livingstone is just making it up as he goes along and Brown and Darling are even worse once again the good old motorist is being wrung out like a damp cloth to get the last few  drips, because of Labours bungling incompetence we are now all left to pick up the bill for their reckless spending on hairbrained schemes, Who sold off our gold reserves when the price was rock bottom? good old Gordon Brown Gold is now $1000 an ounce need i say more Fiscal genius? my foot</p>
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		<title>By: Will of Will from Willonia</title>
		<link>http://autotraderblog.co.uk/2008/02/12/293/comment-page-2/#comment-792</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Will of Will from Willonia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i dont think that congestion is that bad,i drive a 500 litre tank and i dont have to pay anything.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont think that congestion is that bad,i drive a 500 litre tank and i dont have to pay anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://autotraderblog.co.uk/2008/02/12/293/comment-page-2/#comment-782</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a conservitive 2 litre family estate car and I will have to pay the £25 pounds. Next time I&#039;ll make sure I get a X5 with some serious CO2 emissions]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a conservitive 2 litre family estate car and I will have to pay the £25 pounds. Next time I&#8217;ll make sure I get a X5 with some serious CO2 emissions</p>
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		<title>By: Eduardo</title>
		<link>http://autotraderblog.co.uk/2008/02/12/293/comment-page-2/#comment-686</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 03:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Taxes and laws like these are simply rubbish, here in São Paulo, BR, a few years ago they introduced a law which consists in banning cars circulation based on their license plate last numbers, for example, 1 and 2 on monday, 3 and 4 in tuesday, and so on.

if you drive around with you car in those &quot;banned&quot; days they stick you a fine

 The purpose was reducing pollution but the effect was the inverse with people buying a second car, registering with a different last number plate (ex. my car plate ends in 1, so I buy another and license it with the plate ending in 5) and so more cars in traffic is the result]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taxes and laws like these are simply rubbish, here in São Paulo, BR, a few years ago they introduced a law which consists in banning cars circulation based on their license plate last numbers, for example, 1 and 2 on monday, 3 and 4 in tuesday, and so on.</p>
<p>if you drive around with you car in those &#8220;banned&#8221; days they stick you a fine</p>
<p> The purpose was reducing pollution but the effect was the inverse with people buying a second car, registering with a different last number plate (ex. my car plate ends in 1, so I buy another and license it with the plate ending in 5) and so more cars in traffic is the result</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>http://autotraderblog.co.uk/2008/02/12/293/comment-page-2/#comment-625</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Graham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You say that the Skoda fabia will be exempt from the charge, what about all Skodas my superb is used as a taxi and it was smoke tested from new and it has always been 30% below what the government says it should be but i still have to pay £130 in road tax the same as the fabia.
nearly every modern diesel car made should be exempt from the charges as they are cleaner and greener than there petrol counterparts so why are we being hammered at the pumps]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say that the Skoda fabia will be exempt from the charge, what about all Skodas my superb is used as a taxi and it was smoke tested from new and it has always been 30% below what the government says it should be but i still have to pay £130 in road tax the same as the fabia.<br />
nearly every modern diesel car made should be exempt from the charges as they are cleaner and greener than there petrol counterparts so why are we being hammered at the pumps</p>
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		<title>By: Hooner</title>
		<link>http://autotraderblog.co.uk/2008/02/12/293/comment-page-2/#comment-619</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hooner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Roberto Maietta ..You&#039;re right there with your comments. Britain is a rip off esp in London, however I visited London last week with the family for 4 days. We took the train from Plymouth £64 for a family of 4, used the underground (lots) cost £40. Sooo cheap. Why would anyone want to drive a car in London anyway. 
More the problem is it will creat a two tier transport system, the well off driving expensive guzzling cars and polluting and the rest of us on public transport saving the planet. Generally the well of don&#039;t care for the environment when it hurts. to quote a BMW exec &quot;people go to Cocktail parties talk all night about the enviroment then jump in the X5 to go home&quot;.
I really think cars over 200g/km should be banned in any city centre in the UK along with banning single occupany in any city centre Chauffers shoulfd NOT be included.
Nuff said.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roberto Maietta ..You&#8217;re right there with your comments. Britain is a rip off esp in London, however I visited London last week with the family for 4 days. We took the train from Plymouth £64 for a family of 4, used the underground (lots) cost £40. Sooo cheap. Why would anyone want to drive a car in London anyway.<br />
More the problem is it will creat a two tier transport system, the well off driving expensive guzzling cars and polluting and the rest of us on public transport saving the planet. Generally the well of don&#8217;t care for the environment when it hurts. to quote a BMW exec &#8220;people go to Cocktail parties talk all night about the enviroment then jump in the X5 to go home&#8221;.<br />
I really think cars over 200g/km should be banned in any city centre in the UK along with banning single occupany in any city centre Chauffers shoulfd NOT be included.<br />
Nuff said.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://autotraderblog.co.uk/2008/02/12/293/comment-page-2/#comment-609</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[all these congestion chargers are a way 2 get money 

i think we shud warm up the country depresion would decline nd we&#039;d get better fruit!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all these congestion chargers are a way 2 get money </p>
<p>i think we shud warm up the country depresion would decline nd we&#8217;d get better fruit!</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Ronson</title>
		<link>http://autotraderblog.co.uk/2008/02/12/293/comment-page-2/#comment-601</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joshua Ronson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He says that &#039;Chelsea tractors&#039; are not needed? Well, lets give a real life example. We need a family car that doubles as a car to take the dog to the park every morning (its a big German Shepherd, big..). We have a budget of 16K. So... we need a big car. Options (used: Toureg, ML290 (old), Volvo (the big one), Dodge Nitro and a few other big cars. All of these classify under the 25 pound a day zone. It would go into the zone lets say 4 times a week, and thats morle like 6 times. Thats 100 pounds. 3000 odd pounds a year. Alot of money.

Who is Ken Livingstone kidding? Is he in a dilusional world where he thinks he&#039;ll get voted in again? Actually he may be, and you know why? He is pro-palastine. Due to the influx of Arabs, he will be voted.

To all the people who are like &#039;Good riddens posh people&#039; well, as mentioned above, cars that go into the 25 pouns a day do not have to be very expensive, and old cars will suffure alot as they lack proper catylisct converters etc.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He says that &#8216;Chelsea tractors&#8217; are not needed? Well, lets give a real life example. We need a family car that doubles as a car to take the dog to the park every morning (its a big German Shepherd, big..). We have a budget of 16K. So&#8230; we need a big car. Options (used: Toureg, ML290 (old), Volvo (the big one), Dodge Nitro and a few other big cars. All of these classify under the 25 pound a day zone. It would go into the zone lets say 4 times a week, and thats morle like 6 times. Thats 100 pounds. 3000 odd pounds a year. Alot of money.</p>
<p>Who is Ken Livingstone kidding? Is he in a dilusional world where he thinks he&#8217;ll get voted in again? Actually he may be, and you know why? He is pro-palastine. Due to the influx of Arabs, he will be voted.</p>
<p>To all the people who are like &#8216;Good riddens posh people&#8217; well, as mentioned above, cars that go into the 25 pouns a day do not have to be very expensive, and old cars will suffure alot as they lack proper catylisct converters etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Hayes</title>
		<link>http://autotraderblog.co.uk/2008/02/12/293/comment-page-1/#comment-596</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish They Would Get rid of some of the filthy diesel 40 year old buses and stinking taxis that are licensed by the metropoltitan police and transport for london before the poor motorist is yet again picked upon by the likes of ken livingstone and his cronies !!!

Yours faithfully

Michael Hayes]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish They Would Get rid of some of the filthy diesel 40 year old buses and stinking taxis that are licensed by the metropoltitan police and transport for london before the poor motorist is yet again picked upon by the likes of ken livingstone and his cronies !!!</p>
<p>Yours faithfully</p>
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		<title>By: Davey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Davey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A very expensive way of achieving very little.

TFi&#039;s own figures show that almost all their income is achieved through fines. The scheme has been a financial disaster generating zero cash for public transport.

Raising the CC is about covering up this shortfall, now that they have gone through the cost and political pain of introducing it they cannot let it fail regardless of cost.

Pretending that it&#039;s to improve our environment is pathetic and is insulting to the green movement.

Remember the CC was originally touted as a green measure, well TFi&#039;s own figures state it has had no impact on pollution; this is primarily because the wind doesn&#039;t know about the zone.

We need to tackle the problem Ken not just raise the charge to justify a badly thought out scheme.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very expensive way of achieving very little.</p>
<p>TFi&#8217;s own figures show that almost all their income is achieved through fines. The scheme has been a financial disaster generating zero cash for public transport.</p>
<p>Raising the CC is about covering up this shortfall, now that they have gone through the cost and political pain of introducing it they cannot let it fail regardless of cost.</p>
<p>Pretending that it&#8217;s to improve our environment is pathetic and is insulting to the green movement.</p>
<p>Remember the CC was originally touted as a green measure, well TFi&#8217;s own figures state it has had no impact on pollution; this is primarily because the wind doesn&#8217;t know about the zone.</p>
<p>We need to tackle the problem Ken not just raise the charge to justify a badly thought out scheme.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s have the government subsidise the conversion of all our vehicles to run on water. Then we could all be green and not pay a bean back to the government in petrol tax and congestion/emmission charges. Everyone&#039;s a winner! Or then again, maybe they&#039;d think of some other way to make up the income loss. Maybe a heavy breathing tax to reduce emmissions?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s have the government subsidise the conversion of all our vehicles to run on water. Then we could all be green and not pay a bean back to the government in petrol tax and congestion/emmission charges. Everyone&#8217;s a winner! Or then again, maybe they&#8217;d think of some other way to make up the income loss. Maybe a heavy breathing tax to reduce emmissions?</p>
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		<title>By: Roberto Maietta</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Business will suffer in the short term, but eventually what will happen is that the people affected will find a way to pass on the costs to consumers, and so ultimately everyone will suffer.

Even if its just employees right now, they will all be looking for alternatives, and many will argue for a pay rise on the basis of increasing costs of living, including these charges.

Many people I know simply refuse to go into London anyway. You cant get out of London late at night due to poor infrastructure that closes down too early.

And the costs of everything in London is way ti high. When people say &quot;Rip off Britain&quot;, you need to double that when talking about London.

And here we have a bureaucrat who wants to increases costs again. Has the world gone mad?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Business will suffer in the short term, but eventually what will happen is that the people affected will find a way to pass on the costs to consumers, and so ultimately everyone will suffer.</p>
<p>Even if its just employees right now, they will all be looking for alternatives, and many will argue for a pay rise on the basis of increasing costs of living, including these charges.</p>
<p>Many people I know simply refuse to go into London anyway. You cant get out of London late at night due to poor infrastructure that closes down too early.</p>
<p>And the costs of everything in London is way ti high. When people say &#8220;Rip off Britain&#8221;, you need to double that when talking about London.</p>
<p>And here we have a bureaucrat who wants to increases costs again. Has the world gone mad?</p>
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